hey there, yeah okay I've been reading through this thread and although it seems to be done and over I still want to give my view on that small 'issue'. I've seriously thought about it and I have an idea what causes this type of issues/discussions in the first place. In short: The fact that the judges were not required to elaborate on their ratings. I think that's the main problem right there.
It's like asking someone "Well what do you think of this? And the person answers with just a Yes or No." In my opinion just rating a map with a good or bad score on its layout is inadequate. Explain why you think it's so good or bad, why it's so much fun or so frustrating to play. I mean, what does it say when Judge1 gives me 4 points (outta 5) for texturing and Judge2 gives me 1 point? All I can make of this is that Judge1 seemed to like my texturing and Judge2 did not, right? Then for example when I start comparing my map with the others and notice that someone elses map got a much higher score from Judge2 on texturing than mine, I'd really like to know what Judge2 didn't like about my work. Without some form of explanation or short write-ups with cons and pros the scores mean absolutely nothing to me. I don't learn anything from it and it just leaves me with an unsated taste and it also leaves me wondering; Maybe he just didn't like my texture choice, maybe he felt the textures didn't fit the style of the map, maybe he felt my texture choice was too samey to his liking, maybe he didn't even notice all the little touches I put in, or just maybe he doesn't know how to judge at all? I can't really tell from a number. I remember a contest where my map scored not one single point in the category "extras". Okay, fair enough. But then when I notice that someone elses map in which I myself couldn't find any obvious extras, is scoring well in that category, I feel I at least deserve to know what the decision was based upon. I don't think that's too much to ask from a judge. Yes it takes more time that way but so does making a freaking map. And if you're not sure you can finish a map in time or have a hard time judging things in general then don't just sign up for the job. As a judge you make a joke out of yourself when your ratings are very questionable and obviously deviating from the rest. We all know that personal taste is not a matter for argument, but as for being a judge in something like a mapping contest it's always better if you elaborate on your judgement.
Post by Wixen1 [Q2C] on Jan 26, 2005 14:52:12 GMT -5
Soo, soo well said Pan.
I totally agree with you point of wiev. Even thou i think i spend a lot of time judging these maps, i might after all these insedents about "valid judges" and "nepolitisme" still wait a bit to do my elaboration.
Pan, that is another good point. Without a write-up about the map, it's hard to understand what the judges felt was inadequate about each offering. It's always best to add impressions when judging maps for a contest.