ok how can I make my own?

[clan leader [MCS]§hydmÄn]

ok I give! I need a map so I will make my own! now can anyone tell me where to get all the programs I need to make a map at?

[Le Ray [Q2C]]

I use a program called Tread 3D v. 1.12. It's kind of hard to find.
Maric from Backshooters has a great tutorial for mapping with this program.
You can find this tutorial under the "Links" section here on the Cafe'.
I hope you have some luck with your map.

[grieve[Q2C]]

Maiirkc and his tut ? Tread3D ?
Stop digging out these corpses, ya perv.

Use Quark, that's an approved, easy to use editor which is also childproof. My Quake tool of choice.

dynamic.gamespy.com/~quark/

[Le Ray [Q2C]]

Well, I guess it's what you get used to.

[Riz [Q2C]]

Heck the only program for mapping I ever even got close to having luck with was WorldCraft. If I could get a good program on my system and actually figure it out I might one day be able to join the ranks of mappers around here instead of just skinning.

[grieve[Q2C]]

Radiant or Quark. Not much more out there.

Since they rebuilt Radiant for the GTK runtime ( and made it GTKRadiant ) it is a buggy mess.
So the choice is easy.

[clan leader [MCS]§hydmÄn]

O MY GOD THIS IS SO HARD! I went to a mega quake download site my god thay have a lot of shit there so I just download every thing!
www.fileaholic.com/
now if I could just figur out how to use this stuff.
>hehehe I found a dirty skin and map there<

[Riz [Q2C]]

LOL, if your trying to avoid the dirty stuff, stay away from my site.

[clan leader [MCS]§hydmÄn]

I aint but it was just the first dirty skin for q2 I have ever found.