Two New Rail Only Maps

[lockdown]

Hi,

I just found this web site and I'm so damn happy that there are still people playing this game! Rock on.....

I decided to give map making a shot about a week or so ago. I downloaded Qoole v2.50 and I have made 3 maps and I'm currently working on another one.

The first one didn't turn out so well because of lighting issues. I tried a different tactic on the other two and I was wondering if somebody could please download them and give me your opinion and or advice. Good or bad, it doesn't matter.

Here is the link to a zip file containing the two maps:

www.savefile.com/files.php?fid=8912130 - 0.62MB

The maps are:

anotherrailmap.bsp - 899kb

redlightdistrict.bsp - 794kb

Thank you in advance and again, it's really good to see people trying to keep this game alive!

Lockdown

[whirlingdervish]

thx for the maps bro! and welcome to the Cafe'
We're happy every time we see another lost mapper find their way to this little
corner of the web..

[grieve[Q2C]]

;D

welcome to the Cafe, lockdown.

I like especially "anotherrailmap" from your two maps.
nice usage of colored lights, textures and architectural elements. the layout, although simple, gives a feeling of complexity. the whole thing feels really good. n1.

gotta give it a try with bots.

[lockdown]

Hi,

Thank you Whirlingdervish [Q2C] and Grieve! I really appreciate the welcome. Thank you for downloading the maps as well.

I have been searching the web for the last week or so trying to reassure myself that Quake2 is still alive...lol. It really is good to know that there really are people still playing one of the best games ever made!

I am trying to get a new video card so I can't really even enjoy the game at the moment. I have a 128MB video card. However, it skips frames every few seconds. Hopefully it won't be much longer and I will be able to see you all on the battlefield for some fraggin' fun.

Thank again for the welcome and checking out my maps.

Lockdown

PS - I have a newbie question.

I was wondering if somebody could please explain how to make a door open with a button you have to shoot? The door needs to open south and the button needs to move east/west. Thank you now for the help.

[X7[Q2C]]

anotherrailmap








redlightdistrict








Thay look good

X7

[Miniwood]

lockdown said:

I was wondering if somebody could please explain how to make a door open with a button you have to shoot? The door needs to open south and the button needs to move east/west. Thank you now for the help.

You have to set a health value for the button to make it shootable. Here's the func_button tutorial from RUST, link in my sig. You'll find func_door there too. The angle key/value pair is used to make the door and button move the way you want. I don't use Qoole so I can't help you with setting them.

func_button

The func_button entity is a very simple entity that is used for for triggering other entities such as doors to open, platforms to rise, etc, etc. In many ways it acts like a regular trigger_ entity but there are a few more options and differences that you may notice.

Creating the func_button
First thing you need to do is create the brush/brushes that will be the func_button and then turn it into a func_button. Pretty straight forward and simple.



Key Value Pairs
Angle - Angle determines the direction that the button will move when it is pressed. In most cases you will set the angle towards the wall that the func_button is up against to give the impression that it is being pressed into the wall. There are also cases in which you would have the angle set differently then towards the wall that it is up against. For example: You could have a button on the floor that the player would step on to trigger. Another advanced use of the angle key is for creating a lever. This would just be made by creating a thin lever shaped brush that has the angle set parallel to the wall.

Target - It should be set to the corresponding targetname that the func_button will trigger. A func_button MUST have a target or it would be useless.

Targetname - A targetname on a func_button is very strange, but it still works fine and can be useful. When a func_button has a targetname and is triggered the button will be set off just like it was pushed by the player, setting off it's own targets in the process.

Speed - Speed is pretty self explanatory. It determines the speed in which the button moves when it is pushed.

Wait - Wait is the amount of time that the button will pause before becoming active again. If you don't want the button to return then set the wait to -1.

Lip - Lip is the length of the button that is offset after being activated. So if you have a large lip value then more of the button will stick out after being pressed in.

Health - A value for health can be set if you want the button to be activated when shot. The button MUST be killed to be activated. Pushing it won't do anything after a value for health is set. The higher the value for health the more damage is needed to trigger it.

Sounds - The key value pair sounds works the same way for the func_button entity as it does for func_door and func_door_rotating:

1. There are no choices for different sounds, only one sound is available.

2. If you set this key to anything else than 1, you will always get the same standard button sound. If you set it to 1, you will have no sound.

So the "sound choices" list in the source code comments are outdated and probably just left over from Quake1. You do NOT have to use this key value pair unless you want your button to be silent.



Spawnflags
There are no spawnflags that are required or used for the func_button



Animated Textures
There are lots of animated textures that can be used for buttons. Animated textures are not something new but in Quake2, they behave a bit differently and this is one of it's coolest features. The best choice for these are 4 frame texture sets: To make a long story short, the button's face will toggle between the first 2 when idle and between the last 2 when pressed. Here's an example:

Suppose you make a button and apply the e1u1/arrow0 texture, when the button is idle, the button face will cycle between the arrow0 and arrow1 textures. While the button is pressed, the button face will cycle between the arrow2 and arrow3 textures.

This will work with all textures that follow one another in alphanumeric order and which end with the numbers 0 to 3. If you use a set which has only 2 textures in a row in the list, the button face will cycle between these 2 textures both in the idle and pressed states. Note that if there are more that 4 textures in the set, the ones after 3 will simply not be used. For instance, there is a e1u1/arrow4 in the last example: well, it is not used in the animation sequence. If you apply it to the button face, the texture will not be animated.

Also note that whether you apply the first, last or any other texture in the set makes no difference, the button face's texture will still be animated. If you use a 4 texture set, changing which one of the 4 you apply to the button face will change the sequence of which pair is displayed in the idle and pressed state. Let's pick up the previous example with a slight modification:

Also note that whether you apply the first, last or any other texture in the set makes no difference, the button face's texture will still be animated. If you use a 4 texture set, changing which one of the 4 you apply to the button face will change the sequence of which pair is displayed in the idle and pressed state. Let's pick up the previous example with a slight modification:

Make a button and apply the e1u1/arrow1 texture, when the button is idle, the button face will cycle between the arrow1 and arrow2 textures. While the button is pressed, the button face will cycle between the arrow3 and arrow0 textures.

Most animated "4 frame sequence" textures usually look and operate better when you apply the first texture (no. 0) in the set to the button face but that's not a fixed rule. Experiment and see what works best for you.



Uses of the func_button
In most cases you are going to use the func_button for easy tasks such as opening a door or triggering a lift of some sort. Which is very simple. Just make the func_door or platform give it a targetname, then target it with the func_button.

There are also some more advanced uses of a func_button such as a platform or a lever. Remember that although it is called a func_button you can use it for anything that you want to use it for.

Download the sample map here:

www.gamedesign.net/content/quake2/entity/samples/func_button.zip

Nice maps BTW

[Le Ray [Q2C]]

Welcome to the Cafe' lockdown!
Glad you found us.
Your maps look great, thanks for sharing them with us!

[AAAGGHHH!!]

Right on lockdown cool maps for sure!

[Yun]

Right on. For a new Quake2 mapper, these are good.

So.. much.. red.

[whirlingdervish]

yun said:

Right on. For a new Quake2 mapper, these are good.

So.. much.. red.

LOL. I like the maps, very fun.
Yun has a point...
kinda feels like I just put on my Berserk Ring

[lockdown]

Hey,

I just wanted to say thank you all for the comments and the help.

I also apologize for taking so long to get back to you all. As I was changing my video card, I somehow managed, to short out the power supply. As soon as I get that replaced, I will post a couple more maps that I made over the last few days.

Again, thank you all for the help and the nice welcome to the boards. I'll be back as soon as I can.

Rock on...