Help with Lighting

[James]

Ok i have been using qoole (i find it the easiest ) and umm im hgaving trooubles with my lgihting...first thing it says is that my mapped is leaked...BUT ITS NOT and when it goes to load colourmnap it cant find any solutions or mabeh possibly some1 show me a new and better editor..PLZ!

[napalmdeath]

try quark instead

[Paril]

Yup. QuArK.

-Paril

[X7[Q2C]]

james823 said:

Ok i have been using qoole (i find it the easiest ) and umm im hgaving trooubles with my lgihting...first thing it says is that my mapped is leaked...BUT ITS NOT and when it goes to load colourmnap it cant find any solutions or mabeh possibly some1 show me a new and better editor..PLZ!

You should go here and read the Documentation on Qoole.
qoole.gamedesign.net/

When you run the first build with qbsp3.exe, this will tell you if there's a leaked/hole.
This also makes a "mapname.lin".

I use Tread3D, I can import "mapname.lin" and it show's a yellow line where the leaked/hole, it always stops at and entity. But if no hole in the map there could be and entity out side the map area, or you might have link two(2)
entities in diferent parts of the map where the center is out side the map area.

If there is no leaked/hole then the qbsp3.exe will make, "mapname.bsp" & "mapname.prt". the "mapname.prt" is used with the qvis3.exe.


Here is what I see when there is a hole in a map I'm working on..





You need to extract the colormap.pcx from the baseq2/pak0.pak and put it in the baseq2/pic/ folder.

[Sabotuer [Q2C]]

I'm a qoole player, but I'm so tired right now that I can't explane!
talk to me on msn: [e-mail]

[Paril]

He didn't even spell explain right. He's really tired.

-Paril

[grieve[Q2C]]

and he surely meant qoole mapper, not qoole player.

sounds like he is really tired.

[Paril]

And he didn't use a capital letter on the Q in Qoole, nor in MSN. I think he's dead!

-Paril

[James]

ok umm i know all about leaks an im a pretty good mapper BUT! the map is not leaked i tried even a put jsut a square room and playter start in middle still says leaked and i have tread3d but i dont understand maybe somebody can help me out with it ...and Quark...well lets just say i hate..and the colourmap thing...the .Pak files you say?

[James]

Ok nvm i just did a build pause to see if i could figure something out but ummm EVERYONE of the dam Compilers fails they all say -ERROR- couldnt load this or couldnt load that Qbsp says Leask(not leaked) Qrad says couldnt find Untitled.prt and Qis Says oculnd topen Colourmap.pcx(even fater taking out of the .Pak file)...and its doing this with all the editors ove tried...in serious need of help

[Whirlingdervish]

I'd start over from scratch with QuArK.
Quoole works for some people, but not very reliably for others.

QuArK can be a little tricky to set up, but it works pretty nicely and the build console is very useful and streamlined.
I recommend using QuArK version 6.5 alpha 8 for Quake 2 mapping, since they changed a few things in the newest release that don't help us.

Here are some links that will get you started using QuArK.

here are the best qbsp, qvis and qrad build utilities that I've found:
dervish.tastyspleen.net/files/buildutils.zip

here is the link to the download site for QuArk:

sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=1181

the url to the actual download seems to be too long for the forum link code to handle so here it is:

http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=1181&use_mirror=easynews&filename=quark-win32-6.5.0alpha8.exe&69700273

(just copy and paste into your browser)

here's the QuArk website:
quark.planetquake.gamespy.com/

and here's a short setup tutorial I wrote for Quark (version 6.5 alpha 8) to get you from
installing all the way through compiling your first map with it:
dervish.tastyspleen.net/files/Quark%20setup.pdf

This wont fix your Quoole problems, but it will help you make a working map!

[James]

Any tutorials anywhere..on how to use quark .....cuz im using it and i cant understand it...so many buttons so...little patients....

[X7[Q2C]]

james823 said:

Any tutorials anywhere..on how to use quark .....cuz im using it and i cant understand it...so many buttons so...little patients....

quark.planetquake.gamespy.com/infobase/maped.tutorial.html

[spirit]

james823 said:

Ok nvm i just did a build pause to see if i could figure something out but ummm EVERYONE of the dam Compilers fails they all say -ERROR- couldnt load this or couldnt load that Qbsp says Leask(not leaked) Qrad says couldnt find Untitled.prt and Qis Says oculnd topen Colourmap.pcx(even fater taking out of the .Pak file)...and its doing this with all the editors ove tried...in serious need of help

If the compiler claims the map was leaking it most likely is.

Everyone likes another editor and you'll have to find the one that suits you best on your own. As I do lots of q3 mapping, I'm using GTKradiant but I assume that other editors also provide you with the possibilty to generate and load a point file for your map. When you load it up, a thick red line originates from the first entity you placed in your map and goes out of your map through the leak and into the void. Simply follow the red line in the 3D-view window to find the leak. Note that detail brushes should NOT be used for the outer hull of your map, they will produce a leak if you do use them for the outer hull (view-> filter -> details in radiant to be sure).

The error on loading the .prt-file (a portal file for calculating bsp-tree and the potential view set) may occur when you missed compiling VIS on your map.

Also be sure to place the file colourmap.pcs into the '<your-quake2-dir>/baseq2/pics/' folder.

[James]

So it turns outs that the problem witht he lighting is that...THERE WAS A FRICKEN SPACE IN BETWEEN Quake AND 2! it should have bveen Quake2 but it was Quake 2. Thanks for all the help tho guys